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StackStorm: Event-driven automation

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debarshri8 hours ago

Stackstorm has been around since 2014 [1].

Rundeck is another closest competitors that worth mentioning. Things have evolved a lot in the ops space since then.

With advent of container orchestration of the operational automation pieces have also moved to the orchestration layer. There have been quite some new tools in the space I have been tracking for instance Fylament [2] which got acquired by netapp, blinkops etc. Post rendezvous with this domain, some bigger problems most of the major framework tools like this have is that, it is very hard to get started. There are lot of pre-requisites given the nature of the ops automation, this leads to a problem where it is very hard to active a customer. Secondly, these frameworks are always competing with it is bash/python script deployed with some container orchestration or some cronjobs. I have also seen people write CRDs and reconciliation loops in k8s doing lot of the tasks these automation frameworks would do.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StackStorm

[2] https://www.netapp.com/newsroom/press-releases/news-rel-2022...

chillfox1 hour ago

Every time I need to automate something and I look at these solutions it becomes clear that I can put together a Ruby script to handle it much faster than getting one of these automation solutions up and running.

zyphr7 hours ago

Red Hat is working towards a similar feature for anisble automation platform.

https://www.ansible.com/blog/getting-started-with-event-driv...

linsomniac8 hours ago

I played around with StackStorm maybe 5 years ago, but in the end I decided to use RunDeck instead. https://www.rundeck.com/. Used that for a few years but ended up abandoning it, but am thinking about resurrecting it, it was pretty good.

gzapp1 hour ago

Ex-Rundeck engineer here. Would be very interested to here why you initially dropped it and why you are thinking about picking it back up!

lgas8 hours ago

This is interesting. It's like IFTTT for ops. The list of adopters is intriguing too. I poked around their blog for a few minutes and it seemed to be targeted more at people who have already adopted StackStorm. It would be great to be able to read some success stories from the people using it.

eugenc6 hours ago

https://github.com/StackStorm/st2/blob/master/ADOPTERS.md includes a few more examples and use cases with the links.

lgas12 minutes ago

Oh thanks, somehow I looked right at that and didn't process the fact that it was annotated with case studies and conference talks.

kinow7 hours ago

I tested StackStorm sometime ago to confirm you can have cycles in the workflow graph: https://kinoshita.eti.br/2021/10/01/cyclic-workflows-with-cy...

I work with climate and weather workflows, where cycles in workflows are common (ecFlow and Cylc are popular tools that support it).

Haven't checked in a while but I expect StackStorm's Orchesta engine to have even more interesting features now.

v3ss0n2 hours ago

How it compares to:

- Prefect.io

- Apache Airflow

- Ansible Tower

candiddevmike8 hours ago

If you're looking for a similar, commercially supported product, checkout RackN Digital Rebar: https://www.rackn.com. Similar concept, vastly easier deployment/HA/GitOps/multi-tenancy story.

armab8 hours ago
marcrosoft7 hours ago

I wouldn’t trust any tool that claims to have anything to do with security that has a curl pipe to bash install advertised.

eugenc7 hours ago

One of the maintainers here and I second that.

Other options available:

  - deb/rpm packages
  - Vagrant
  - Docker-compose
  - Ansible/Puppet
  - Kubernetes/Helm
https://docs.stackstorm.com/install/index.html
ilyt6 hours ago

...probably better idea to adveritse docker container, not everyone wants to have half-rotten corpse of python app spreading shit around your system forever (there is never an uninstall...) just to test something.

...or at least one that fucking works

    zzz@hydra:~$ curl -sSL https://stackstorm.com/packages/install.sh | bash -s -- --user=st2admin --password=Ch@ngeMe
    *** Detected Distro is Debian ***
    *** Detected flavor bookworm ***
    Unsupported ubuntu codename bookworm. Please use 16.04 (xenial) or Ubuntu 18.04 (bionic) or Ubuntu 20.04 (focal) as base system!
I've tried to drop the check for distro only to be asked for fucking sudo which is like... WTF ?

    zzz@hydra:/tmp$  ./install.sh --user=st2admin --password=Ch@ngeMe
    *** Detected Distro is Debian ***
    *** Detected flavor bookworm ***
    Downloading deployment script from: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/StackStorm/st2-packages/v3.8/scripts/st2bootstrap-deb.sh...
    Running deployment script for st2 ...
    OS specific script cmd: bash st2bootstrap-deb.sh  --stable   --user=st2admin --password=****
    [sudo] password for zzz: 
curl|sh that downloads more curl|sh is also interesting choice.
gjvc2 hours ago

`curl | sh` "installs" are not a good look on any package, and should be dropped -- you are absolutely right -- there is never an "uninstall" process.

undefined00z5 hours ago

It's supporting a few OS platforms and require a clean server for installation: https://docs.stackstorm.com/install/system_requirements.html

Expect to get MongoDB, RabbitMQ and Redis installed as dependencies.

ilyt6 hours ago

I've tried on clean account

It is curl|sh that also requires sudo

letsg04 hours ago
throwawaaarrgh9 hours ago

I love the design, but it just seems mostly abandoned. Maybe it needs better marketing?

eugenc6 hours ago

One of the maintainers during EU late night here.

* The release management team is preparing the v3.8.0 release right now, - coming out soon next week.

* There are 15 Maintainers (https://github.com/StackStorm/st2/blob/master/OWNERS.md) in the Technical Steering Committee (TSC), a very diverse group, but I'd say only 1/3 or half are really active.

* There are monthly TSC meetings and we invite curious to join us: https://github.com/StackStorm/community/issues/33 (next meeting is on 6th Dec).

* Past Meetings: https://github.com/StackStorm/community/issues?q=is%3Aissue+...

* The project is under the neutral Linux Foundation umbrella with no single commercial owner, so probably why less marketing. We have blog/twitter/linkedin with the mostly engineering updates for engineers.

But I agree with the sentiment overall, - the development velocity could be higher and we definitely welcome new contributors and interested folks. The tool is written in Python if someone is willing to join, play with it and start contributing.

tempest_8 hours ago

In what sense?

The repo linked here appears to have contributions merged in that last month and it has a bunch of active pull requests.

nyellin8 hours ago

Nice to see this on here.

I founded a startup that does something similar for Kubernetes:

http://github.com/robusta-dev/robusta

We've seen a bit of StackStorm too with our users!