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xena15 days ago

My website returns a random person in a list for every X-Clacks-Overhead response header: https://github.com/Xe/site/blob/877872b4d7db92b602683ecb4e99...

I figured this was one of the best ways to do it. That way I'm letting people that were significant to me live on forever, one random HTTP response header at a time.

  $ curl https://xeiaso.net --head | grep clacks
  x-clacks-overhead: GNU Satoru Iwata
remus14 days ago

That's really nice. I hope you don't mind, but I run this website https://climbing-history.org/ and have borrowed your idea, except for climbers who have passed away.

xena14 days ago

Not in the slightest! Do it, it helps the names of those who are no longer with us never be forgotten.

skowalak14 days ago

Seeing Kris Nóva in that list hit hard. It is a beautiful idea, thank you Xe.

WJW14 days ago

Love this idea. Maybe I'll make a gem or something to make enabling that easier.

xena14 days ago

The code is pretty trivial but in case it helps: https://github.com/Xe/site/blob/main/internal/clackset.go

philbo13 days ago

Minor nit, but you've spelt Stephen Hawking's name wrong in the clackset. It's "Stephen", not "Steven".

pdpi15 days ago

The thing that struck me about "GNU John Dearheart" was how it feels like it _really_ deeply captures hacker culture, like Pterry wasn't just referencing the culture, but that he really got it. Which is remarkable, because he gave me that impression about many, many topics. Such a loss.

bombcar15 days ago

Terry loved his characters in a way that's hard to express - unless they were pure evil (and he had a few) he did his best to understand their motivations in such a way that he came to portray them sympathetically.

This is most noticeable in his caricatures that became characters that became badasses over multiple novels; the Watch has a few of these, but there are others.

pdpi14 days ago

Yup. Vimes going full-on berserker mode while screaming "Where is my cow?" should, by all rights, be extremely silly. Instead, it sent shivers down my spine.

riffraff14 days ago

When clacks got introduced, the description of people who just enjoyed being there and spending time on coding messages and talking to unknown remote people.. well, it felt like early internet, fidonet, perhaps AM radio amateurs.

It really seemed like Pratchett knew something of this niche cultures, way more than I expected.

pdpi14 days ago

> It really seemed like Pratchett knew something of this niche cultures, way more than I expected.

He was definitely an early adopter of the internet, (and e.g. very active on alt.fan.pratchett), so that's no big surprise.

bregma14 days ago

He was active on Usenet. I remember seeing his messages.

doctorpangloss14 days ago

On the flip side it is so crushing that the Cluely guys go to fancy school to help people cheat and, essentially, get away with not reading. I can't imagine an ethos so short sighted, not least because the technology they use was made by people who love science fiction and did a lot of extremely difficult homework their whole lives. These guys are the opposite of hackers, they're just hacks.

And to what end? To make less money than their moms do in internal medicine?

masfuerte15 days ago

> In Terry Pratchett's science-fantasy Discworld series, "The Clacks" is a network infrastructure of Semaphore Towers, that operate in a similar fashion to telegraph - named "Clacks" because of the clicking sound the system makes as signals send.

Surely named "Clacks" because of the clacking sound the system makes.

rfmoz15 days ago

The Clacks is a copy of an optical telegraph system that was used in Sweden

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Niclas_Edelcrantz

Also UK used a system close to that. And a lot of countries along Europe developed their networks with different signaling devices.

rhet0rica14 days ago

Sorry; it's more likely they were named in tribute to the Chappe telegraph towers of France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappe_telegraph

The stations were more elaborate and there is even a recorded instance of a secret signal being passed on illicitly:

https://blog.franceinfo.fr/deja-vu/2017/10/10/le-piratage-du...

rfmoz14 days ago

A good related book written by Gerard Holzmann and Bjorn Pehrson:

The early history of data networks https://archive.org/details/earlyhistoryofda0000holz

jihadjihad14 days ago

It makes for an interesting subplot in the (unabridged) version of The Count of Monte Cristo, which is mentioned in the Wikipedia article above.

robocat14 days ago

Sorry, it's more likely he named them after the noise of navy signal lamps that use shutters: here's a video with the sound

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2G0wu-jbko

shakna14 days ago
Animats14 days ago

"We're obligated to inform you that this site uses cookies to do things like maintain your session and deliver personalised content. We also use third-party services from partners such as Google, who may also place cookies on your computer. Without cookies this site cannot function correctly. Please allow cookies from this website, otherwise features may not work."

Amusingly, that's not true. The only cookie they send is Google Analytics, which has zero value to the user. The site works fine with it blocked.

MagnumOpus14 days ago

Absolutely. It is a disrespectful, shameful lie by the authors of the site.

junon14 days ago

Chill. This is the defacto statement, they probably just copied it from somewhere.

GA was the only way to get a simple page count view without setting up a database or a backend system before we switched to serverless cloud step function lambda craziness.

Seems like a passion project, and they just wanted to know if their work was used. I give people the benefit of the doubt on all of this when it's a small site.

rcxdude14 days ago

>they probably just copied it from somewhere.

It would be nice if people read and meant something even if they copied it from somewhere.

echelon14 days ago

No it's not. It's dealing with the red tape of EU cookie legislation.

Do you want to know how many human years my last company had to devote to regulation? We could have built a hundred startups with all that effort.

I'm not saying GDPR right to be forgotten and data dump/portability isn't important, but it comes with a steep cost that everyone pays everywhere. So much time and money was spent on it. Easily billions of dollars.

And the cookie stuff? How useful has that been?

wizzwizz414 days ago

Have you read the EU cookie legislation? It actually requires you to not lie to users about what your cookies are for. Whatever the reason for a message like this, you can't blame EU legislation.

ePrivacy and GDPR compliance are cheap. Trying to rules-lawyer them to keep illegal business models going, while dodging regulatory scrutiny, is expensive.

+1
echelon14 days ago
apricot14 days ago

Asking marketing people not to lie. Good luck with that. Might as well ask water not to be wet.

shadowgovt14 days ago

You're being downvoted, but you're right. At this point, I think it would be interesting if somebody did an analysis of the total cost spent for GDPR compliance against, say, a massive education campaign across the entire EU about how cookies work.

harperlee14 days ago

GDPR goes way beyond cookies so that dichotomy is nonsensical.

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echelon14 days ago
MrGilbert15 days ago

It's been a while I heard about X-Clacks-Overhead. I added it to my own page to commemorate everyone I lost along the way. After reworking my site from a custom blog engine to plain web, I forgot to re-add the custom headers. Thanks for the reminder today!

There are also browser extensions, which show when a website broadcasts the "X-Clacks-Overhead" - header.

kawsper15 days ago

I added it to all the sites at my old workplace when I was there after a discussion on HN.

One day I noticed that it disappeared, but then it returned, so someone on the inside cared and brought it back, that made me smile :)

sublinear14 days ago

My cynical mind would assume someone was trying to debug an unrelated issue and saw this header in a last known good version.

KaiserPro15 days ago

I tried making "real" clacks https://www.secretbatcave.co.uk/2025/03/12/gnu-terry-prachet...

I need more time and motivation to make a full network though.

Normal_gaussian15 days ago

That is really quite a cool project and write-up.

   (I used to administer a laser link. go on, ask me why they aren’t very popular)
    I spent a lot of time working out how to create low powered laser transducer, capable of working on something battery powered.
This is my favourite part; very real.

I think you're right; I suspect Terry would have been tickled by the header, but if there were any physical world implementations I think he would have been overjoyed. One of my favourite Terry stories is of him making his sword, which feels similar.

kurisufag14 days ago

for a while I thought I might go to one of those uniquely nerdy colleges where they let you fuck around with dorm infrastructure.

i back-of-napkin'd a whole packet-over-laser relay system based conceptually on the clacks that'd give every room/station its own serial-interfacible (up|down) link. you could link buildings out of windows and stuff. horribly impractical and prohibitively expensive, but the kind of thing that could only happen in a university on-campus environment.

atemerev15 days ago

This is obviously the most important HTTP header, but HTTP is application-level, and clacks is a packet routing system.

Perhaps something like IPv6's Hop-by-Hop Options can be used to pass names with every packet?

Or, even better, we can use LoRa repeaters for something close to the actual clacks network.

MrGilbert15 days ago

Someone drafted a RFC some years ago, for Clacks-over-HTTP:

https://github.com/clacks-overhead/clacks-protocol

lxgr14 days ago

I love the idea! But to be true to the original, shouldn't the message be self-propagating?

> [...] header that can be transmitted from server to server [...]

How so? In HTTP, there's always one client and one server. Am I missing some way to make this sticky or self-propagating, e.g. browsers or other clients that will cache received headers and then send them to other servers?

riffraff14 days ago

There isn't, it's just the people in the loop who can make it self propagating. But then, so did they in the original clacks.

lxgr14 days ago

Fair point, I guess I now have to add the header to my web servers :)

achillean14 days ago

Around 40,000 services on the Internet are currently including the header:

https://www.shodan.io/search/report?query=x-clacks-overhead+...

For some reason, a lot of honeypots are also using that header so I filtered those out. The number of services has slowly increased over time:

https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=x-clacks-overhead+-tag...

zipping154914 days ago

The result is very strange. It's saying that South Korea has the most number of websites with the header and yet I don't see ANY search result in Korean. No writeup or whatsoever. Wonder what those websites would be.

styanax14 days ago

Flying by the seat of my pants, this page of information has details which we can guess at - 27,799 are South Korea, 27,690 are Korea Telecom (so close that I'll say it's a 1-to-1 match). Wikipedia tells me as of 2015, KT ran more than 140,000 Wifi hotspots.[1]

Further down the info, we see 28,587 (almost the same number as above) HTTP titles are "Gargoyle Router Management Utility" - which is an opensource variant of the OpenWRT world which patches the code to include the Clacks header.[2]

I'm going to conclude that there's a direct correlation in this data (it all being one and the same endpoint/device pattern) and that 30,000 KT Wifi hotspots across South Korea have their management UI open on the public interface and not locked to the internal network or a VPN, etc. running this Gargoyle patch.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KT_Corporation

[2] https://github.com/ericpaulbishop/gargoyle/blob/master/patch...

zipping154913 days ago

Interesting. Thanks for the insight.

marviel15 days ago

I'm almost to this one in my read through! I'm excited to get to the "information age" arc

cyberpunk15 days ago

mozilla.org doesn't do it anymore:

    < HTTP/2 301
    < server: nginx
    < date: Sat, 05 Jul 2025 13:36:11 GMT
    < content-type: text/html
    < content-length: 162
    < location: https://www.mozilla.org/
    < strict-transport-security: max-age=60; includeSubDomains
    < x-backend-server: TS
    < cache-control: max-age=3600
    < via: 1.1 google
    < alt-svc: h3=":443"; ma=2592000,h3-29=":443"; ma=2592000
Edit: Nope. I was wrong, if you follow that 301 it does:

< x-clacks-overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett

podlp15 days ago

I saw this header recently while profiling headers from feature phones. I think Opera Mini or another browser might’ve injected this header, which is odd because it’s meant to reduce bandwidth and sending it with each request goes against that

gardnr14 days ago

I try to add this to every project I work on.

protocolture14 days ago

I always read this as something that would need to be done at a lower level, like forwarding some arbitrary information in a BGP update.

offbyone14 days ago

If you happen to nominate or vote on the Hugo Awards, you may have seen this turn up.

bonezed14 days ago

great idea, just added it to my site

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Normal_gaussian15 days ago

> The idea of sending a header to remember a tech person is a great one, but I think the name should be something neutral, or something that has some relation to the person and not a random fantasy reference.

You made me laugh - this has 'old man shakes fist at cloud' vibes, which is concerning as it seems we are about the same age!

If you wanted to add a header `X-In-Memorium` to any site that you control, go ahead. If anyone adds `X-Clacks-Overhead` to their site, its not going to affect you.

The My Little Pony thing seems, from an outsiders quick look, like it does meaningfully affect other people.

xg1515 days ago

Hah, yeah agreed, it's really like ranting about the shapes of gravestones a bit.

bombcar15 days ago

As an old favorite song of mine reminds me, "gravestones cheer the living, dear; they're no use to the dead."

zem14 days ago

> random fantasy reference.

I think you underestimate just how much Pratchett is part of the pantheon of all time greats for many science fiction and fantasy fans. I suspect there is a considerable percentage of Pratchett fans among the people running the fractal infrastructure of the internet

shadowgovt10 days ago

Essentially. There's a Pratchett reference in a fan-supported optional protocol extension for the same reason there's a programming language called Python and '42' is used as a common placeholder number.

mathgradthrow14 days ago

obviously the difference is between the artistic merit of MLP and discworld.

shadowgovt14 days ago

This is probably not a loose thread we should be pulling on the grand sweater that is the nature of art. ;)

mathgradthrow13 days ago

That's ridiculous, this is a discussion abour taste. It will obviously depend on your taste.

shadowgovt12 days ago

That's pretty much what I'm saying.

There's a fun series of YouTube video essays called "The Whole Plate" that discusses film theory and critique through the lens of Michael Bay's "Transformers" movies. Pretty fascinating stuff, ranging from cinematography shop-talk (you can't remember what happened in a Bay movie because there are rules for holding audience attention and he breaks them on purpose to make you feel anxious) to critical lenses and how the same movie tells a different story depending on the preconceptions you bring in.

The author, Lindsay Ellis, uses Bay's work for a couple of reasons: she actually enjoys the films, they're pop-culture relevant so her target audience is likely to be familiar with them, they have been heavily criticized as having little artistic merit... and they grossed like $4 billion worldwide, so at some point the conversation of what art is becomes irrelevant if the guy doing it bought a mansion off the work.

(As you noted, any debate over the artistic merit of MLP and Discworld will reveal far more about the biases of the debaters than the works themselves, so what would be the point?)

shadowgovt14 days ago

Pony Time actually reminds me of the hard-boiled egg from the revolutionary rallying cry in another Terry Pratchett story.

Part of me feels a little sad that they set it aside if I understand your story correctly. Real world politics is rife with this kind of tradition for tradition's sake. It's one of the things that ends up binding people together in the long run. Compare and contrast The Black Rod in the British Parliament and their role in summoning the Commons.