> "Most people can say, 'Why is it a big deal for a teenager now to have their data [on TikTok]?' Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world,"
I’m technically Gen-Z (but just barely) and this is something that really worries me. It’s become increasingly normal in recent times to share absolutely everything online but I’ve got a pretty grim feeling that this isn’t gonna end well. People don’t realize that the AI’s being trained on your data today will act as an internet history that you can never delete.
If there are actual "national security concerns", they should rule that TikTok data of Canadian citizens needs to be stored within Canadian borders and can only be accessed by Canadian employees. This ban (removing the company's presence from the country while keeping the app active) ensures the exact opposite.
To be clear, they're not banning the app, they're banning ByteDance from having offices in Canada
Isn't it all rather self-defeating, then?
ByteDance will keep no data in Canada, will not employ any Canadians, will not report any information to Canadian authorities, and will have no reason to comply with Canadian warrants or court orders. (Or even judgments.) At the same time, all Canadians can continue to use the app.
On balance, this seems bad for Canada and great for ByteDance.
> On balance, this seems bad for Canada and great for ByteDance.
It's hard to balance anything until they explain why they did it. So far they claim they aren't at liberty to share but claim it was bad enough to make a very unprecedented move like this.
It goes both ways.
... and Bytedance will not have any recourse if Canada bans the app.
Can .ca App Store still offer the app legally if no biz entity operating in Canada? If no, then it's the same as ban the app
What is the strategy here? Why does banning ByteDance from having offices in Canada do anything?
Could it be the start of a series of legislation to make it impossible to operate the app which would be more palatable to the public than a ban?
1: Ban presence in the country
2: Add data provision requirements that personal information be stored in the country.
3: TikTok can’t meet requirements? Well that’s on them, guess they can’t operate here.
> What is the strategy here
1. Show the current government is doing something after the CSE said the Canadian government has been breached by China's MSS [0]
2. A response to China for breaching Canada's systems.
3. A way to get a quick win to make bipartisan China hawks across the border in the US happy.
[0] - https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cse-cyber-threats-china-1.7...
But what's the point? It's more common for a government to force companies to have an office in the country to exercise political or legal control (see for example recent news about Twitter's Brazil office). Why banning them from having one?
“Bans ByteDance” might be better wording.
> Citing national security concerns, the federal government has ordered TikTok to shutter its Canadian operations — but [Canadian] users will still be able to access the popular video app.
Same goes for the U.S, if citizens are banned from using an app you don't live in a democracy.
> "It is important for Canadians to adopt good cyber security practices and assess the possible risks of using social media platforms and applications, including how their information is likely to be protected, managed, used and shared by foreign actors, as well as to be aware of which country's laws apply."
I am sure that Canadians will totally do this.
Yes, this data is for American and Canadian companies to collect and sell!
What data does china allow American and Canadian companies to collect and sell regarding Chinese citizens?
> "in wake of national security review of popular social media app"
Where is the outrage then?
The outrage is probably posted on TikTok.
so it's a problem already solved from the legal government's standpoint?
Hell yeah, screw TikTok and the horse it rode in on.
(Canadian founder in unrelated domain)